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		<title>By: jelo</title>
		<link>http://think.dumblaws.com/2006/10/good-old-christian-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-19349</link>
		<dc:creator>jelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I follow Abrahamic scripture. I am not Jewish, Christian or Muslim yet at the same time, in a sense, I am all three. I know, sounds contradictory, but it works for me.

With that said, it astonishes me how so many of the faithful from any religion can claim to be so tolerant and yet in actions and words prove that they are not?

It amazes me how when someone from one&#039;s own religion commits a heinous act that somehow they must not be true believers of that religion...yet when someone from another religion commits a heinous act that is just proof of what the other religion is really about?

It is a false belief that any one religion is about peace or violence. When it comes to the Abrahamic faiths it is both about peace and violence. It is obvious from the Torah, Bible and Qur&#039;an that God states there is time for peace and time for violence. Destroying whole towns? Soddom &amp; Gomorah? That was terrorism right there! Right and wrong is a human invention separate from God. Yahweh/Allah is a God of peace and violence as it serves His purposes.

As I have stated, I believe in the God of Abraham but I do not believe that my way is the only way and I derive this belief from scripture...the same scriptures that many that believe in the same God as I seem to miss. God works in mysterious ways so who am I to question?

At one time I was an agnostic with atheist leanings...I did not appreciate back then when the religious would try to convert me. As now as a religious person I still do not appreciate it...you see, no matter how religious you are, even if you are of the same basic belief system as them they will still try to convert you to their exact way of believing. I do not try to convert others so do not try to convert me...I am open to sharing and if what you have to say is truly the one and only way then your attempts at conversion would not be necessary...I would automatically have to believe, wouldn&#039;t I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I follow Abrahamic scripture. I am not Jewish, Christian or Muslim yet at the same time, in a sense, I am all three. I know, sounds contradictory, but it works for me.</p>
<p>With that said, it astonishes me how so many of the faithful from any religion can claim to be so tolerant and yet in actions and words prove that they are not?</p>
<p>It amazes me how when someone from one&#8217;s own religion commits a heinous act that somehow they must not be true believers of that religion&#8230;yet when someone from another religion commits a heinous act that is just proof of what the other religion is really about?</p>
<p>It is a false belief that any one religion is about peace or violence. When it comes to the Abrahamic faiths it is both about peace and violence. It is obvious from the Torah, Bible and Qur&#8217;an that God states there is time for peace and time for violence. Destroying whole towns? Soddom &amp; Gomorah? That was terrorism right there! Right and wrong is a human invention separate from God. Yahweh/Allah is a God of peace and violence as it serves His purposes.</p>
<p>As I have stated, I believe in the God of Abraham but I do not believe that my way is the only way and I derive this belief from scripture&#8230;the same scriptures that many that believe in the same God as I seem to miss. God works in mysterious ways so who am I to question?</p>
<p>At one time I was an agnostic with atheist leanings&#8230;I did not appreciate back then when the religious would try to convert me. As now as a religious person I still do not appreciate it&#8230;you see, no matter how religious you are, even if you are of the same basic belief system as them they will still try to convert you to their exact way of believing. I do not try to convert others so do not try to convert me&#8230;I am open to sharing and if what you have to say is truly the one and only way then your attempts at conversion would not be necessary&#8230;I would automatically have to believe, wouldn&#8217;t I?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps it is you, mossman who is terrified of not knowing and therefore you embrace dogma.  For without the structure of false belief you would be crippled with fear.  Just a contrasting illustration.. I&#039;m an agnostic.. I don&#039;t feel the need to embrace archaic tenets.  I feel comfort in the question with no answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps it is you, mossman who is terrified of not knowing and therefore you embrace dogma.  For without the structure of false belief you would be crippled with fear.  Just a contrasting illustration.. I&#8217;m an agnostic.. I don&#8217;t feel the need to embrace archaic tenets.  I feel comfort in the question with no answer.</p>
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		<title>By: mossman</title>
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		<dc:creator>mossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that all of you who have attacked Christianity, or any other religion for that matter, are simply terrified of the unknown.  You have seen no physical evidence, yet so many people believe in these religions, and that scares you to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that all of you who have attacked Christianity, or any other religion for that matter, are simply terrified of the unknown.  You have seen no physical evidence, yet so many people believe in these religions, and that scares you to no end.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://think.dumblaws.com/2006/10/good-old-christian-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-15067</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Jesus&#039;s message love thy neighbor?
;not onward christian soldiers kill indiscrminately?

this christian fascism is very scary ; and an example why the founding fathers delibertely made an consitiution seperate of church and state. If not we need to organize and resist this leviathan of fearand repression; before we are all  tortured at Gitmo.

Peoplle shouldn&#039;t be afriad of thier governments, governments should be afraid of thier people . V for Vendetta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Jesus&#8217;s message love thy neighbor?<br />
;not onward christian soldiers kill indiscrminately?</p>
<p>this christian fascism is very scary ; and an example why the founding fathers delibertely made an consitiution seperate of church and state. If not we need to organize and resist this leviathan of fearand repression; before we are all  tortured at Gitmo.</p>
<p>Peoplle shouldn&#8217;t be afriad of thier governments, governments should be afraid of thier people . V for Vendetta</p>
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		<title>By: Fredric L. Rice</title>
		<link>http://think.dumblaws.com/2006/10/good-old-christian-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-8074</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredric L. Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Just because they have a different opinion 
&gt; than you doesn’t give you any right call 
&gt; them terrorists. 

Most Christians ARE terrorists or terrorist simpathizers.  It&#039;s the nature of the death cult that they follow.

Christianity&#039;s history is one of mass murder, rape, torture, treason, hatred, and bigotry.  ALL Christians today who have joined the death cult are in defacto agreement with the death cult that they joined.  They know their death cult&#039;s history and they ACCEPT it by being followers.

Christian terrorism is a far bigger threat to the United States and to the rest of the world than Islamic terrorism.  Christian butchers have raped, tortured, and murdered something like half a million innocent people in Iraq -- and they did it because they&#039;re Christian.

Let&#039;s face some other undeniable truths here: Had the people of Iraq also been Christians, this fascist terrorist Christian State here in the United States would have invaded, raped, tortured, and murdered just as many innocent people.

That&#039;s Christianity.

Denial of what Christianity is all about is one of the major reasons why Christian terrorism and Christian fascism is allowed to contniue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Just because they have a different opinion<br />
&gt; than you doesn’t give you any right call<br />
&gt; them terrorists. </p>
<p>Most Christians ARE terrorists or terrorist simpathizers.  It&#8217;s the nature of the death cult that they follow.</p>
<p>Christianity&#8217;s history is one of mass murder, rape, torture, treason, hatred, and bigotry.  ALL Christians today who have joined the death cult are in defacto agreement with the death cult that they joined.  They know their death cult&#8217;s history and they ACCEPT it by being followers.</p>
<p>Christian terrorism is a far bigger threat to the United States and to the rest of the world than Islamic terrorism.  Christian butchers have raped, tortured, and murdered something like half a million innocent people in Iraq &#8212; and they did it because they&#8217;re Christian.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face some other undeniable truths here: Had the people of Iraq also been Christians, this fascist terrorist Christian State here in the United States would have invaded, raped, tortured, and murdered just as many innocent people.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Christianity.</p>
<p>Denial of what Christianity is all about is one of the major reasons why Christian terrorism and Christian fascism is allowed to contniue.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://think.dumblaws.com/2006/10/good-old-christian-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is so much disrespect for human life in this world it makes me sick.  i do not know a single Christian that truly lives the life that Jesus taught.  what ever happened to love thy neighbor?  do unto others as you would have them do unto you?  if we are all God&#039;s children then why is it okay to hate and kill each other - like killing your brothers and sisters - does that make God proud of his children?  i am not a Christian, but i do like to think of myself as a good person who tries not to judge anyone unfairly - especially with regard to religion.  a lot of times crimes are committed out of desperation and it&#039;s a lot easier to just think badly of them instead of trying to understand them.  have sympathy for your fellow man.  show compassion for people that don&#039;t have direction in their lives.   be a good role model and set an example of a good person who strives to live a good life - unselfishly.  i believe that the teachings of Christ are good.  very good.  they seem fair to me and peaceful.  unbiased.  he is a person that set a wonderful example of how to live and he still had a pretty rough life.   even if he never existed at all and the bible is just a made up story - it&#039;s a pretty good one.   like i said, i am not a Christian, but one thing i am and i will always be until the day i die is a person with the opportunity and ability to do good and help others if i can.  i believe that is a responsibility that i was born with.  i&#039;m sure many people don&#039;t agree with me, but that is not going to change how i feel about my own life and the lives of others.  i understand that there will always be war and pain.  the whole world isn&#039;t ever going to get along.  there will always be hate.  it&#039;s up to each individual to decide how they want to live their lives and hopefully they will choose to not hurt or kill other people.  i can&#039;t make the decision for anyone but myself.  and i choose to not force my beliefs on anyone.   i just try to make the best decision and set a good example.  just my opinion.  thanks for listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is so much disrespect for human life in this world it makes me sick.  i do not know a single Christian that truly lives the life that Jesus taught.  what ever happened to love thy neighbor?  do unto others as you would have them do unto you?  if we are all God&#8217;s children then why is it okay to hate and kill each other &#8211; like killing your brothers and sisters &#8211; does that make God proud of his children?  i am not a Christian, but i do like to think of myself as a good person who tries not to judge anyone unfairly &#8211; especially with regard to religion.  a lot of times crimes are committed out of desperation and it&#8217;s a lot easier to just think badly of them instead of trying to understand them.  have sympathy for your fellow man.  show compassion for people that don&#8217;t have direction in their lives.   be a good role model and set an example of a good person who strives to live a good life &#8211; unselfishly.  i believe that the teachings of Christ are good.  very good.  they seem fair to me and peaceful.  unbiased.  he is a person that set a wonderful example of how to live and he still had a pretty rough life.   even if he never existed at all and the bible is just a made up story &#8211; it&#8217;s a pretty good one.   like i said, i am not a Christian, but one thing i am and i will always be until the day i die is a person with the opportunity and ability to do good and help others if i can.  i believe that is a responsibility that i was born with.  i&#8217;m sure many people don&#8217;t agree with me, but that is not going to change how i feel about my own life and the lives of others.  i understand that there will always be war and pain.  the whole world isn&#8217;t ever going to get along.  there will always be hate.  it&#8217;s up to each individual to decide how they want to live their lives and hopefully they will choose to not hurt or kill other people.  i can&#8217;t make the decision for anyone but myself.  and i choose to not force my beliefs on anyone.   i just try to make the best decision and set a good example.  just my opinion.  thanks for listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that there are a couple of points that should be made here. 

First of all, calling either side of the abortion debate &quot;pro-life&quot; or &quot;pro-choice&quot; is doing a disservice to either side. We are all pro life, ad all pro choice. If you really believe it, cal it pro- or anti-abortion. Why put a sweet little name on it?

Second, as to the definition of what constitures a terrorist: a terorist is someone who wishes to influence events or situations through the use of terror, not simply through violence. Terror means many things to many people. To a network exec, terror may be the loss of stock share  or even his job due to a Christian boycott of his network.  To a closeted gay man (or woman), terror may be the shame and embarassment that may be heaped upon him if his community finds out, or even that he will no longer enjoy the same rights and privileges as the rest of the community once he is outed. To a teen girl facing the prospect of a life ever changed because daddy couldn&#039;t keep his hands off her, terror may be having to ever after care for and raise a product of daddy&#039;s excesses because some people she never met and is never likely to said she couldn&#039;t do anything about it.  Or to a government research scientist, terror may be the thought of losing his life&#039;s work or having it tainted becasue the government in power does not agree with his findings and thinks that they may be against Christian thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that there are a couple of points that should be made here. </p>
<p>First of all, calling either side of the abortion debate &#8220;pro-life&#8221; or &#8220;pro-choice&#8221; is doing a disservice to either side. We are all pro life, ad all pro choice. If you really believe it, cal it pro- or anti-abortion. Why put a sweet little name on it?</p>
<p>Second, as to the definition of what constitures a terrorist: a terorist is someone who wishes to influence events or situations through the use of terror, not simply through violence. Terror means many things to many people. To a network exec, terror may be the loss of stock share  or even his job due to a Christian boycott of his network.  To a closeted gay man (or woman), terror may be the shame and embarassment that may be heaped upon him if his community finds out, or even that he will no longer enjoy the same rights and privileges as the rest of the community once he is outed. To a teen girl facing the prospect of a life ever changed because daddy couldn&#8217;t keep his hands off her, terror may be having to ever after care for and raise a product of daddy&#8217;s excesses because some people she never met and is never likely to said she couldn&#8217;t do anything about it.  Or to a government research scientist, terror may be the thought of losing his life&#8217;s work or having it tainted becasue the government in power does not agree with his findings and thinks that they may be against Christian thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://think.dumblaws.com/2006/10/good-old-christian-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please forgive the spelling mistakes i will undoubtedly make. I think the author has a lot of good point, and many persuasive arguements, however i believe that most, or atleast some, of these could be more solid. For example, the arguement about abortion, while many christians are avidly pro-choice because of religous beliefs, religous beliefs are not the only factor. If it ws PURELY a question of religous outlook then it wouldn&#039;t be as big as it is, but the pro-life side has a convincing arguement even without Christianity because with out interferance and barring a miscarriage that fetus will be/ is a unique individual, more over a vulnerable, helpless individual. So, the arguement of Christian beliefs being imposed upon us by the gov. is only partially valid.

One last thing and I&#039;ll wrap it up. The TV network not showing maddonnna? THat&#039;s not a gov. agencies, the gov., as far as i know, did not censor Maddonna&#039;s crusifixion. Under the 1st amendment a TV station has every right to decide what and what not to show and those who threatened a boycotte effectivly exercised their forst amendment right to protest. Perhaps the network was wrong to give in but they run a business and shouldn&#039;t be faulted too much for trying to avoid bankrupcy.  Maybe the protesters shouldn&#039;t have protested, I know i didn&#039;t apriciate it, they could have simply not watched the broadcast, but they have their rights too and I can not deny them that. 

Thanks for you time,
Erin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive the spelling mistakes i will undoubtedly make. I think the author has a lot of good point, and many persuasive arguements, however i believe that most, or atleast some, of these could be more solid. For example, the arguement about abortion, while many christians are avidly pro-choice because of religous beliefs, religous beliefs are not the only factor. If it ws PURELY a question of religous outlook then it wouldn&#8217;t be as big as it is, but the pro-life side has a convincing arguement even without Christianity because with out interferance and barring a miscarriage that fetus will be/ is a unique individual, more over a vulnerable, helpless individual. So, the arguement of Christian beliefs being imposed upon us by the gov. is only partially valid.</p>
<p>One last thing and I&#8217;ll wrap it up. The TV network not showing maddonnna? THat&#8217;s not a gov. agencies, the gov., as far as i know, did not censor Maddonna&#8217;s crusifixion. Under the 1st amendment a TV station has every right to decide what and what not to show and those who threatened a boycotte effectivly exercised their forst amendment right to protest. Perhaps the network was wrong to give in but they run a business and shouldn&#8217;t be faulted too much for trying to avoid bankrupcy.  Maybe the protesters shouldn&#8217;t have protested, I know i didn&#8217;t apriciate it, they could have simply not watched the broadcast, but they have their rights too and I can not deny them that. </p>
<p>Thanks for you time,<br />
Erin</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christians killed alot of my ancestors because they refused to convert.  Present day evangelicals tell me I am going to suffer eternally if I refuse to convert, and have generally inflicted their unpleasantness upon me.  Successful christian proseletyzing is a form of religious/cultural extermination. It is wrong, it is evil. I refuse to convert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christians killed alot of my ancestors because they refused to convert.  Present day evangelicals tell me I am going to suffer eternally if I refuse to convert, and have generally inflicted their unpleasantness upon me.  Successful christian proseletyzing is a form of religious/cultural extermination. It is wrong, it is evil. I refuse to convert.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then Thomas your postion about abortion comes down to save the child. Step back and think, first this child will not have a happy life in most &quot;not all but most&quot; cases. The mother will not be able to look at the child and not see what happened. She now has a living breathing reminder, and somewhere to now vent that anger. IF the child is given up for adoption then that is often times not a fair or decent alternitive. If you need proof speak to more then just one adopted person try fifty to a hundred. More stories will be of bad foster parents, home hoping, and/or feeling out of place through thier youth. 

Then you have a poorly adjusted adult at best in many cases &quot;again not all but most&quot;. 

No compassion for parent or child Thomas, none at all. 

I know someone is going to say BUT I AM ADOPTED. please step back remmber the stories of your peers. IF you had a happy ending how many did not? if you don&#039;t know call them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then Thomas your postion about abortion comes down to save the child. Step back and think, first this child will not have a happy life in most &#8220;not all but most&#8221; cases. The mother will not be able to look at the child and not see what happened. She now has a living breathing reminder, and somewhere to now vent that anger. IF the child is given up for adoption then that is often times not a fair or decent alternitive. If you need proof speak to more then just one adopted person try fifty to a hundred. More stories will be of bad foster parents, home hoping, and/or feeling out of place through thier youth. </p>
<p>Then you have a poorly adjusted adult at best in many cases &#8220;again not all but most&#8221;. </p>
<p>No compassion for parent or child Thomas, none at all. </p>
<p>I know someone is going to say BUT I AM ADOPTED. please step back remmber the stories of your peers. IF you had a happy ending how many did not? if you don&#8217;t know call them up.</p>
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